Only Rudy Can Win Ohio
From wcpo.com
Rudy Giuliani’s campaign says a Quinnipiac University poll shows the former New York Mayor dead even with Hillary Clinton in Ohio.
Giuliani, who started his day at a private fundraiser at Jeff Ruby’s Steakhouse, moved from event to event throughout the day.
Outside the downtown restaurant, two protestors held signs making reference to five marriages including one to his cousin.
Giuliani then spent a few hours at Great American Ballpark with Red’s owner Bob Castellini.
He took a few questions from reporters and down-played right-wing criticism of his pro-choice and gay-rights views.
“I think the most important issue is being on offense against Islamic terrorism. I think there’s no candidate in the race who has as much experience with that as I do,” Giuliani argued.
He continued by asserting he is the most electable Republican.
“We’ve got to find a candidate who can be a nationwide candidate,” said Giuliani. “We’ve got to find a candidate who can win in New York, win in California. We can’t give away the North. We can’t give away the East. You look at the most recent poll, here in Ohio, I’m the only Republican who has a chance of winning Ohio.”
I know Matthew will disagree, but Rudy is probably right.
Rudy(Ted Light)is a liberal. He is a receipt for a Hillary Win. Give conservatives no choice and they stay home just like in 2006.
Rudy is left and no amount of spin can make him right.
Then we will blame conservatives for electing Hillary. So when she gets to appoint the replacement for John Paul Stevens we will thank you.
I think a Rudy/Huckabee ticket plus the very real possiblity of another Clinton presidency and giving liberals two more supreme court seats should be enough to drive conservatives out to the polls. If it’s not then we deserve to lose.
Giuliani can’t win the primary. You must understand that. If he’s willing to take the back seat into the highest levels of federal power, he would do the GOP and the nation a great service to accept the VP slot on a Thompson/Giuliani ticket, which I think would beat Mrs. Bill Clinton and Osama-Obama-rama hands down.
No thanks RightAngle- Even if what he said is true (which it isn’t), I will not be responsible for helping elect a pro-abortion candidate…. ever. I’ll leave the baby killing for the Democrats to do.
There would be no difference between a replacement for John Paul Stevens picked by Hillary or by Rudy.
For God’s sake, look at the man’s record and what he has stood for as a lawyer. No use pretending he would be any different than Hillary.
The fault for a Rudy Loss will rest with the fools that nominated him
If Rudy is the nominee, I cease to be a Republican.
“I think the most important issue is being on offense against Islamic terrorism. I think there’s no candidate in the race who has as much experience with that as I do,” Giuliani argued.
What exactly does a city mayor have to do with going on the offensive against terrorists? Giuliani needs to find a new card to play. Just because he was the Mayor when the twin towers went down doesn’t make him an expert on all things involving terrorism.
CincyJeff which card should Rudy Play? His anti-gun card? His Pro-illegal immigration card? His pro-abortion card? His pro special gay rights card?
His I wore a fireman’s hat card just backfired!
OH to be something that fools will believe!
First of all, I am not a rudy booster. I am not sure who to vote for yet. If he ever actually enters, I am leaning toward Fred Thompson. However, like a certain gubernatorial candidate, Fred needs to come to Ohio and woo those who will actually and want to vote for him, something that Gubernatorial candidate never did and took conservative votes for granted, giving the Dems the governor’s mansion. Enough of that.
Look, I love how everyone here is missing the point. Think what you want about Rudy’s social positions, or his expertise or lack thereof in fighting terror; he is right. The fundamental issue of our time is prosecuting the global war on terror and making sure the american people understand the nature of the enemy. Those of you who continue to talk about his record this, and his record that, you must have all voted against Reagan in the primaries when he ran, because his record of being a former Democrat-egads, he switched parties, his record of signing abortion bills into law in California as well as his rather liberal stance on immigration (wowsers!)would obviously disqualify him from being President. Think about that a little bit before you start casting the stones. Oh yeah, and Reagan was divorced as well. Sinner, sinner! I wonder now if Naugle will tear down his posters of Reagan and quit espousing him, because how can you ever, ever support someone who was divorced, who signed abortion bill into law, and who also had a record of pro-immigration as well as being friends with some gay people in Hollywood? Yes, friends, read some of Reagan’s correspondence with homosexuals. Yep, he was friends with the gays. Let’s tear down those statues now.
Do you see how idiotic all that is? Why did we like Reagan? He focused on the issues that should serve to unite us, and told the special interest folks peddling judgementalism to kiss off. Only when we were dealing with those most important issues did we discuss the side issues.
I swear, sometimes you people cannot see the forest for the trees.
Reagan’s supporters as delegates changed the Republican Party into something they could proudly believe in. If Rudy changes it into something else, then paraphrasing Reagan: ‘I won’t leave the party; the party will leave me.’
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1976 GOP Abortion Plank
“The question of abortion is one of the most difficult and controversial of our time. It is undoubtedly a moral and personal issue, but it also involves complex questions relating to medical science and criminal justice. There are those in our party who favor complete support for the Supreme Court decision which permits abortion on demand. There are those who share sincere convictions that the Supreme Court’s decision must be changed by a constitutional amendment prohibiting all abortions. Other have yet to take a position, or they have assumed a stance somewhere in between polar positions. “We protest the Supreme Court’s intrusion into the family structure through its denial of the parents’ obligation and right to guide their minor children. The Republican Party favors a continuance of the public dialogue on abortion and supports the efforts of those who seek enactment of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children.”
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/conventions/san.diego/facts/abortion/1976.shtml
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1980 GOP Abortion Plank
“There can be no doubt that the question of abortion, despite the complex nature of its various issues, is ultimately concerned with equality of rights under the law. While we recognize differing views on this question among Americans in general — and in our own Party — we affirm our support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children. We also support the Congressional efforts to restrict the use of taxpayers’ dollars for abortion.
“We will work for the appointment of judges at all levels of the judiciary who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.”
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/conventions/san.diego/facts/abortion/1980.shtml
since when does being friends with gay people mean you are not a conservative?
i did not get that memo…or, maybe i missed that section in the handbook.
who else am I not supposed to be friends with?
Mark - Amen and very, very well said. Ideology has taken over the party, which is not serving us well. I am pro-life, pro-gun and anti-gay marriage. But you can be for damn sure I will work my ass off for Rudy, Mitt, Fred, etc (except Ron Paul who hates America) to win in 08 because they are a helluva lot closer to my beliefs than Commie Clinton is. I do not understand how saying that if you are a “true conservative” you will have to sit out the election if Rudy is the nominee is crazy. Then y’all are no better than the Petro folks who you claim did not show up and that is why Ken lost.
Mark, the issue of abortion is a matter of the life and death of unborn human beings. Traditional marriage, i.e. one man/one woman for life, is a fundamental building block of our society, albeit one we abuse all too often. The issue of open immigration is a vital national security concern that has demographic, political, economic and cultural ramifications for the present and into the far future.
To downplay these issues, despite the overwhelming importance of the war against radical Islam, is a crucial mistake which I hope Republicans will not make. Giuliani is on the wrong side of ALL the so-called “social issues.” Yep, he’s strong on busting crime. Sure, he’s an ardent foe of the thugs and murderers of Islamo-Fascism. Indeed, he has lots in his record to indicate he’s a fiscal conservative. And yes, he is likeable. But he will never get the Republican nomination, because he’s a liberal on all the social issues. And those issues are vitally important to a large number of GOP voters, myself included. Make Rudy into Fred’s VP running mate, pit the Thompson/Giuliani ticket against Mrs. Bill Clinton and Osama-Obama-rama and the GOP faithful will turn out 1) to vote against Shrillary-Hillary-Billary and 2) to vote for two candidates who understand the nature of the enemy we face around the world and will do what’s necessary to defend our homeland and our allies while winning this damnable war. And the leader of the ticket, the man who will nominate the future Alitos, Roberts’, Scalias and Thomas’ to the Supreme and Appellate Courts, and who has shown he’s right on the so-called “social issues” will pull the rest of the GOP electorate out of the woodwork to blow the doors off the pro-abortion cut and run socialists.
First, no one cares about anyone being friends with gays. Rudy is well known for his positions as mayor that provided special rights for gays. I don’t give a rat’s butt if Rudy or any other candidate is gay. What I oppose is tax dollars for domestic partner benefits.
Second, you complexly misrepresent Reagan’s record and his complete turn around from democrat positions. Reagan as a well meaning new governor signed an abortion bill intended for the well being of the mother, thinking it was a life exception. When the law was exploited Reagan admitted his mistake and said it was a result of his inexperience. Rudy on the other hand affirms Roe V. Wade to this day. Ditto appointing judges who affirm Roe V. Wade. Rudy is so far removed from the Reagan that ran for president that the comparison is laughable. Reagan turned from his mistakes and repented of them.
Third, Rudy is still a gun grabbing liberal who would appoint liberal gun grabbing judges.
Fourth, Rudy is not the only republican candidate that understands the war on terror. Any good conservative will protect the country. No use nominating some New York liberal just because he has one issue correct.
[…] says Rudy Giuliani. Right Angle blog has the story via WCPO. “I think the most important issue is being on offense against Islamic […]
Give people no hope, and nothing to vote for, and they won’t vote. The bottom line is very simple. Without a coalition of religious conservatives and people who favor fiscally responsible government, this party is done. There are no pro-choice votes that this party can turn that would make up for the pro-lifers that would be lost.
The Democrats are doing us a favor by bypassing their two most saleable candidates - John Edwards and Bill Richardson in favor of one of the two Dems we have a great shot to beat - Hillary.
Please, let’s not make the mistake of nominating either of the two first-tier candidates who Hillary can beat - Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney.
Campaigns can try to manipulate their positions around the almighty “independent vote” all they want. Went GW’s way in 2004, right? Right…and exactly what - or I should say who - motivates the “Independent” to get out and vote? Answer: The base.
Unless there is a suitable candidate who also appeals to the base, even though said base may vote for the lesser of two evils on election day, they won’t drag 20 people with them and THAT is the component of the “precious” moderate vote that no one is taking into account. If moderates don’t care, let them work GOTV efforts…
I’m willing to let moderates vote for the lesser of two evils for a change next year…obviously they thought that Mulligan was it last year, let them put their money where their mouth is and define their priorities. And if at the end of the day, the tally shows that their “lesser evil” is Hillary, then they will have no one but THEIR demographic to blame.
I really don’t think Rudy can win the election against Billary the socialist. First off Rudy is an authoritarian and he worries me on the second amendment and abortion. He also showed a major flaw on his understanding of the cause of terrorism and foreign policy in the Republican debate when he interrupted Ron Paul telling him he was wrong. In fact Rudy was wrong. Ron Paul pointed out that our policy of foreign intervention has caused much hatred towards our country’s foreign policy. Examples he used were the fact that the United States occupied Muslim holy land and overthrew Mohhamed Mossedegh a democratically elected leader in 1953 with the Shah of Iran. These two actions were among many in which we angered the muslim people. Ron Paul was saying what the terrorists did was by no means right but we have to understand what causes terrorism or we will never win the war.
Imagine this scenario. China invades Canada and Mexico. China overthrows the government of Puerto Rico and installs a dictator. China stations carrier fleets off the coast of Florida, New York, and Texas. China occupies the birth place of Jesus. After all of this Americans might feel a bit desperate and a very small minority just might resort to terrorism.
Rudy may have lived through 9/11 but the firefighters union is strongly opposed to him. He seems to only have one trick and that is mentioning 9/11 to further his political career.
I think our (Republicans) only hope against the new crop of democrats (socialists) is Ron Paul, and here is why.
Dr. Ron Paul has never voted to raise taxes or voted for an unbalanced budget. He was a doctor for many years and delivered 4,000 babies. This experience in the medical profession will give weight to his anti-national health care argument. Dr. Paul is extremely well versed in free-market Austrian Economics and has authored/co-authored over 10 books. He has a platform that is centered around the Constitution and liberty. He has a 20 year record in Congress as a Republican who has never voted for un-constitutional legislation and is literally founding father material. He is also pro-life and pro-second amendment. He is probably the only candidate that can win over people on both sides of the isle because his message of adherence to the Constitution and increased individual liberty appeals to many. I have actually turned democrats over to the Republican party partly because of Ron Paul and partly because I am good at explaining why traditional conservatism is better than liberalism.
If this sounds good to you guys I would visit RonPaul2008.com or join us as ronpaul.meetup.com/151.
think not with your emotions - think with your head. a well argued primary is good. at the end of the day, we all support our nominee in the general. that’s politics. like it or not, you support the republican against ANY democrat. the last governor’s race should have taught us that.