What - exactly - did he say that was so objectionable or crazy? It’s an undeniable fact that both Iran and Syria share borders with Iraq. It’s an undeniable fact that refugees have been pouring into those countries at an astonishing rate.
Do Syria and Iran want the same outcome we do when it comes to Iraq? Probably not. But much like how we would want to be involved in the outcome of a shooting war in Mexico, they have an interest it what happens in Iraq. Either we can involve them and get them to pull as much in the direction we want as we can, or we can ignore them (in which case they will pull only in the direction they want, which quite possibly means interfering with Iraqi progress). Either way, they’ll be exacting as much influence as they can, and frankly they have as much of a right to do so as we do. Better to try and get them to cooperate.
Except that Human Rights Watch is presently criticizing Syria for its treatment of Iraq refugees and the human rights abuses against its own Kurdish population. Syria has not demonstrated that its a partner for peace or has any intention other than using the opportunity created by this Administration to turn Iraq into part of the Syria-Iran caliphate.
Look - I don’t operate under the delusion that Syria is a “good player” in this theater. But we are stuck in the situation we are stuck in (thanks, Dubya!). Unless you think our military can solve this problem without diplomacy, talking to Syria is necessary.
Let’s not forget the context of those statements. That was primarily intended for consumption by Syrian citizens. In and of itself, the interview is a diplomatic message to Syrian citizens.
I do think Kucinich needs to be willing to take a harder line when necessary. But godblessit, he’s trying to provide some leadership on getting a diplomatic resolution to the entire middle eastern mess, when the alternative is more bloodshed. Unless you want more bloodshed in the region, then getting all relevant parties to the table is a necessary first step, even if you axiomatically believe “US paragon of truth and justice, Syria/Iran unequivocally evil”.
IOW, Syria is already trying (with Iran) to make Iraq into a building block for a future caliphate. If you are unwilling to talk to them, the only other tool available is the US Marine Corp. Those guys are a little busy right now.
Perhaps we can use our economic strength to do some bullying at the diplomatic table. That’s much preferable.
Bored in Ohio said,
Wrote on September 10, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
What a silly little man. The terrorist must get a kick out him.
Brian said,
Wrote on September 11, 2007 @ 8:14 am
What - exactly - did he say that was so objectionable or crazy? It’s an undeniable fact that both Iran and Syria share borders with Iraq. It’s an undeniable fact that refugees have been pouring into those countries at an astonishing rate.
Do Syria and Iran want the same outcome we do when it comes to Iraq? Probably not. But much like how we would want to be involved in the outcome of a shooting war in Mexico, they have an interest it what happens in Iraq. Either we can involve them and get them to pull as much in the direction we want as we can, or we can ignore them (in which case they will pull only in the direction they want, which quite possibly means interfering with Iraqi progress). Either way, they’ll be exacting as much influence as they can, and frankly they have as much of a right to do so as we do. Better to try and get them to cooperate.
Diplomacy. That’s just crazy liberal talk.
Moderne Esquire said,
Wrote on September 11, 2007 @ 10:11 am
Except that Human Rights Watch is presently criticizing Syria for its treatment of Iraq refugees and the human rights abuses against its own Kurdish population. Syria has not demonstrated that its a partner for peace or has any intention other than using the opportunity created by this Administration to turn Iraq into part of the Syria-Iran caliphate.
Brian said,
Wrote on September 11, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
Look - I don’t operate under the delusion that Syria is a “good player” in this theater. But we are stuck in the situation we are stuck in (thanks, Dubya!). Unless you think our military can solve this problem without diplomacy, talking to Syria is necessary.
Let’s not forget the context of those statements. That was primarily intended for consumption by Syrian citizens. In and of itself, the interview is a diplomatic message to Syrian citizens.
I do think Kucinich needs to be willing to take a harder line when necessary. But godblessit, he’s trying to provide some leadership on getting a diplomatic resolution to the entire middle eastern mess, when the alternative is more bloodshed. Unless you want more bloodshed in the region, then getting all relevant parties to the table is a necessary first step, even if you axiomatically believe “US paragon of truth and justice, Syria/Iran unequivocally evil”.
Brian said,
Wrote on September 11, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
IOW, Syria is already trying (with Iran) to make Iraq into a building block for a future caliphate. If you are unwilling to talk to them, the only other tool available is the US Marine Corp. Those guys are a little busy right now.
Perhaps we can use our economic strength to do some bullying at the diplomatic table. That’s much preferable.
Dan said,
Wrote on September 11, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
Oh, but it gets better…
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/09/cleveland_democratic_rep_denni_1.html